Why must Dub-step take over the world?

topic posted Sun, February 17, 2008 - 2:52 PM by  Mairin Kareli
I just saw bassnectar on Saturday night (Feb 15) and his set was like 90% Dub-step which I find oppressive and sad. I am so depressed that dub-step is taking over the underground scene ... I last saw Loren at B-man and he played maybe 2 dubstep peices each set ... ahh the good old days I guess.... I super depressed now. Can anyone explain to me whats so great about dub-step?
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  • Re: Why must Dub-step take over the world?

    Sun, February 17, 2008 - 6:05 PM
    I hated it for dancing until I saw Freq at BM. If played properly its awesome.


    Seemed like most of his set Friday (Feb 15th) was hip hop-tempo to me.....what I heard on the 14th in Tahoe was tons of it, but I only saw about 35-40 minutes of his set.

  • Re: Why must Dub-step take over the world?

    Sun, February 17, 2008 - 6:08 PM
    Dubstep is a financially-advantageous sonic structure which resonates the limbic frequencies of the hindbrain and aligns your root chakra with the 12th vibratory imprint emanating from the galactic core. Scientists, poets, and my neighborhood trashman are in professional agreement that Dubstep decreases your risks of colon cancer, cleans your teeth & gums of tartar buildup, and makes a great improvised parachute if you happen to be plummeting from a great height. It stays crunchy in milk, and contains Electrolytes™.

    Hence, Halliburton and its supporting organization (The US Government) have decreed in their 2007 year-end report that Dubstep will be the new marching music of the American Military in all subsequent peacekeeping missions, except where a full-moon is involved, as during full-moons dubstep turns ordinary Marines into were-wolves and Deepak Chopra readers into were-ferrets.

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      Sun, February 17, 2008 - 7:07 PM
      I didnt like DS at first.

      I thought it was too minimal, boring and only listenable on a very ;arge bass heavy system.

      Hiowever then I realized tha tsome of my favorite dongs in my life are Dub Step tempo but had a shit ton of interesting elements and had a high energy.

      When I started experimenting with weritng songs at a MUCH slower tempo (ie dubstep) I realized that there was soooo much room for creativity. Breakbeats have allways been my favorite genre of Dance music in the past, but now Dubstep, which is still evolving so fast that it is best to not pigeon hole, has totaly peaked my curiosity, interest and insperation.

      Truth is Dubstep is really only the halftime beat of a really fast breaks track.

      As for finding it opressive. Im afraid I cant follow you on that . ive heard Dubstep that was incredibly beautifull and uplifting.
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        Sun, February 17, 2008 - 11:27 PM
        damb it i wish i was there for a %90 bassnectar dubstepper set...bet hes got the GOODS....

        when i heard it... fell in love with it, i swear it rattles my cells back into place.... mmmmmm bassness

        too much is too much but better than fluff
        • Re: Why must Dub-step take over the world?

          Mon, February 18, 2008 - 3:26 AM
          In Tucson on 2/9 I heard maybe 5 or 6 tracks of dubstep during Lorin's hour and a half set. But it was sweeeeet. Music is music and dubstep is beautiful. Let's open our hearts to the universal vibration of all music.
          • Re: Why must Dub-step take over the world?

            Mon, February 18, 2008 - 8:32 AM
            "Can anyone explain to me whats so great about dub-step?"

            Umm...sorry...probably not. You're either feeling it or your not. At any rate, it is a rapidly evolving sub-genre, and there are so many different styles these days. Some of it is really dark and nasty, while some of it can be light and beautiful. Me? I like it really dark and really nasty. Maybe it wasn't the "dubstep" you didn't enjoy, but the overall tone of his set?

            I think Lorin does a great job of mixing the beautiful and light with the dark, as evidenced on that new podcast he put together.
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              Mon, February 18, 2008 - 11:17 AM
              I also resisted dub step in general. but like most music I consider a newish genre, it grows on me over time.
              there was a time i said in all seriousness:

              " I will NEVER listen to that techno shit or that hip hop. I will only play my acoustic instruments with friends live, with no amplifiers. it is all about folk music"

              haahaahaa!!! talk about foot in mouth disease....
              now I recognize when I don't like something, it is probably only a matter of time
              .I notice it is sneaking into my sound as well, through the breaks... evolving, hopefully always
              • Re: Why must Dub-step take over the world?

                Mon, February 18, 2008 - 7:23 PM
                I really like the way Lorin typically uses Dubstep minimally, usually as a segway. An entire set of DS drives me up the friggin' wall...I don't care how good it is (An-ten-nae and Genji both have "fantastic for what it is" mixes out right now) when I go to hear music - I go to DANCE.

                I've been to underground LA club recently where they had TWO rooms of DS going off at a time!! There was no escape, so a number of folks just walked out. Although it made me very nauseous, I never actually did barf.

                A Dubstep Rave www.youtube.com/watch is just so B-O-R-I-N-G like "OK...just kill me now, please, God!!!" Seriously. Lorin's set at Lucent L'Amour was really really bassy and actually made my hair vibrate. haha Pope and I were pretty sure that if Lorin had been spinning some nasty Electrobreaks or some freaky Psytrance the system wouldn't have blown ;o)
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                  Mon, February 18, 2008 - 10:04 PM
                  a) the system at Do Lab didnt blow... their generator was fucking WHACK and had some fuel/limit/levelling issue.

                  people always think its the dj blowing the sound system. but at this level that doesnt happen. we are so compressed, and im touring with a sound engineer at all times.

                  i brought the system DOWN 8 DB from where D had it, cuz i never hit more than one blue
                  :)

                  but i knew peeps would be typical like "o lorin blew the system"
                  so im lovingly setting it str8
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                    Re: Why must Dub-step take over the world?

                    Mon, February 18, 2008 - 10:04 PM
                    and heres my dubstep response:

                    ok check it:

                    1. i think standard by-the-book dubstep is fuckin boring, limited, and totally uninteresting. heavy reverb on all the drums, nothing really going on, obligatorily negative melodies and "spppooooooooky" haloween vibes...its not my thing.

                    but thats just the standard definition of dubstep, that only purists maintain (in the same way someone might still insist that vinyl is the only true medium with which to broadcast music).... silly limitations.

                    i dont even think of it as dubstep, i think of it as another style in the genre i create and love called "omnitempo maximalism"

                    no rules
                    no limits
                    everything plus the kitchen sink
                    always changing
                    always contradicting itself, or mutating, or adding or subtracting
                    a pulsing, full on live evolution of sound


                    when i was 16 i was pulverized by death metal...it was RAW and fucking full on. a lot like nu school breaks or DnB. there was also black metal. ...fierce norwegian viking music...much more treble and cinematic epic melodies.

                    then there was DOOM metal....slow as hell...the HEAVIEST form of sound i knew of, often combining orchestras, operas, but always slow and heavy as fuck


                    when i first heard "dubstep" (the second dubstep, since the first was dubby 2-step) i was like...o whatever, its just halftime breaks...its what DOOM METAL is to death metal


                    humans can get all crazy, but the fact is, most clones makes really boring dubstep, cuz they are creating a sound in the same fashion of what they are inspiried by

                    thats why producers today who make glitch hop are BORING because they were inspired by what folks were already doing and then they started doing the same thing, instead of doing something TOTALLY new, inspired by the old thing

                    same with producers who are making bassy midtempo...its like...yeah. we've been on to that for a while now, buddy.


                    i feel attracted to art that exists as an amalgamation of foreign modes of inspiration.


                    not dubstep inspired by dubstep.
                    not indy rock inspired by indy rock.

                    but what about electronic music inspired by earthquakes, Mr Mayagi, Metallica, Jon Stewart, and Si Begg...AND dubstep?


                    so thats the first point:


                    i dont consider it dubstep, cuz i am bored to tears by 90% of the genre, but the tunes that happen to be at 140 bpm that utterly ROCK, ...um, sorry, im not going to avoid them in my omnitempo ride just because you want to be a obsessed with trends.


                    the second point:

                    when it comes to wanting to DJ, and not necessarily broadcast ONLY original music, it was nice back in the day to be able to go out and BUY records. these days, soooo much music sucks SO BAD, that shopping for music is a nightmare.

                    i am soooo picky these days, i can spend 20 hours listening to new music, new CDs, new cuts on the internet, and still not find ONE song that is good enough.

                    and dubstep truly is one of the only genres within which new dope tunes are constantly being released ....

                    even though in my head im like (in a Mr Burns accent) "YOU FOOLS!!! THIS SOUNDS SO SICK!!!! WHY THE FUCKING FUCK DONT YOU PRODUCE IT AT 90 BPM!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!???!!??!?!?!!!!!!! AAAHAHAHAHH!!!!!!!"

                    seriously....

                    i cant fathom why someone would be like "oh...i make dubstep. it HAS to be at this speed and this speed ONLY." ....so lame

                    i love sound at all tempos.

                    i love it heavy and thick....massive and powerful


                    i pass up SO much music, and ONLY play cuts with enormous quality and impact, so if yu catch me one night and i play too much 90 bpm its probably because the night before i played more 70 or 140 or 180, or whatever....
                    but i LOOOOOOOVE double time rythms over a heavy half time...and i LOVED the music in Reno.
                    i also didnt think it was oppressive or negative...i make such a conscious point to tune in to the energy and tone behind the music i play....
                    try to keep the hiphop element non bling non ego, non disrepspeftul.
                    try to keep the glitch like salad dressing...just enough to be effective
                    try to use the dubstep as the heaviest drop, and the double time as the energy catapult...the DnB as the ultra peak, but not too much....and the "vibe" behind the music of course as conscious as possible


                    of course i am as bored with all the dubstep im hearing as i was with all the glitch hop and the midtempo before that, and the breaks before that.

                    but i dont hate ANY of the particulars, its just gotta be moderation.

                    and right now, of allll the genres out there, the ONLY one that is regularl putting out quality newness each week is DUBSTEP.

                    so thats why there is a lot of it...

                    if there was a 90-110 section maybe things would be different, but for me it takes about a month or more to truly create, polish, and finish a song.



                    oh....and another point, watch how when the right dubstep cut drops the whole dancefloor into a totally different stlye of dancing...and then when yu drop a bass glitch-house-ish track, it all changes again...thats FUN!


                    PS...shameless plug: check out my new cuts "Double Step" "Art of Revolution" and the remix of "Kingston Town"

                    if you like "dubstep" with more energy, a deeper emphasis on the BOUNCE as opposed to the space between reverb, you will like them

                    interestingly i dont know why nobody else has combined polka with it

                    last year at Lightning in a Bottle when i played Double Step mixed with a polka track the place went fucking nuts
                    :)
                    • Re: Why must Dub-step take over the world?

                      Mon, February 18, 2008 - 11:26 PM
                      I dunno, Lorin. I do realize that because dubstep is popular right now, there's alot of focus and energy being put into new tracks and that's definitely cool that people are inspired and motivated to produce...still I have not warmed up to a dubstep set and highly doubt that I ever will. It really just pisses me off. Maybe it's true that it's more of a style for testosteronies?

                      I've been soured by the fact that I can't go many places where I can escape dubsteppiness. Sometimes it really sucks cuz it's actually RARE nowadays that there's an actual beat that I can dance to. I know I'm not alone in thinking this.

                      Oddly, there seems to be this self-imposed limitation/restriction for dj's that's been implemented in regards to genre. The fact that you've actually stepped out of your musical confines and thought to produce a dubstep track with polka...well...that's just fucking outrageous!! Do you know how crazy that is? What I mean is that it seems like there aren't many dj's that realize that there are no boundaries here - except for those which are imagined.

                      Is it possible to mix dark tribal house and nuskool breaks with Korean folk music?? Fuck yeah, it is. Is it even legal to blend goa with dark goth industrial and bluegrass? Go ahead and try it, dooood. Go ahead and mix your little head off, because that's how you learn to take chances and develop confidence. That's how you learn that you can fuck chit up and it doesn't matter as long as you can keep a beat - the soundscape is limitless. It's called EXPERIMENTATION, mang.

                      I think that the fact that you get to play out SO MUCH helps you to be motivated to take chances and I've also seen that it builds confidence in your track selections. You also *collaborate* often, which in itself, seems to inspire other dj's that I've known to delve into new realms and try new/crazy chit. I also see this in one of our other friends down south - he says he spends 85% of his free time spinning and is always hanging out with other dj's, comparing notes and messing around with beats. He LOVES to make music and it shows.

                      I'm proud of our friends who really have fun with it and see dj'ing as an adventure because it's incredibly inspiring and uplifting. To be on the dancefloor and have my doors blown off when the dj drops "...a bass glitch-house-ish track" in where I least expect it....THAT IS fucking FUN. When I hear the dj drop a track, disappear it and 20 mins later, weave it back in?? OMFG I feel like I've been turned inside-out and auditorily spanked - I am freakin' so down to hear what comes next. I NEED to dance sometimes and if a dj can keep it up without totally dropping the bpm into the drone zone for too long...I am utterly amazed. I realize that dj'ing/production takes alot of skill and practice to develop proficiency and a great dj, like any great inventor, should ultimately be OCD when it comes to their craft.

                      THANK GOD for all of the OCD dj's in our lives. I may not always love what you guys play, but I appreciate the fact that you take chances and try new chit out and I hope that when it all comes down, whoever stands at the decks/laptop plays for NO ONE but themselves. IMHO, confidence in one's track selection should override everything else. If you can accomplish that, you can play an inspired set that might even win some folks over - and does!!

                      I do remember DeDe telling us that it was the generator. Razzing you about blowing the system with dubstep just sounded alot more funny ;o) xoxo's
                      • Re: Why must Dub-step take over the world?

                        Tue, February 19, 2008 - 9:00 AM
                        I like to mix in a dubstep track, more than I like to listen to it.. And that is solely because it is fun..

                        I constantly hear about a new dubstep track, and people are talking about the heaviest thing they ever heard, or "My Eyeballs are still Twitching"
                        honestly, I get caught up in the hype, and when I finally get my hands on it.. Wah Wah Wah, sooooo dis-a-point-ed.. Don't get me wrong, that's with every genre..

                        Also, I think it's important not to get caught up in the labels, genres, sub genres, sub sub genres, whatever.. I used to do that at a place like Addictech..
                        ME: "Oh Yeah, it's a new heavy, glitchy midtempo, organic track up at Addictech"
                        *Clicks on the preview
                        -two minutes later-
                        wah wah wah..

                        Meanwhile, I have passed over 15 other new tracks, that I don't end up picking up until I hear someone else play it weeks later, or I have the time to go back and listen again. (It takes a while on Dial Up..)

                        Anyway kids, just enjoy and try and stay open to new things, or old things, don't shut it out because of the tag it's carrying, or because it's predecessor was whack..

                        *END PSA*

                        All right.. Now that I got that out of the way, where can I hear the new tunes? No hype, no expectations, just eagerly awaiting earholes..

                        Sincerely Yours, (and yours..)

                        Tyler Durden.
                    • Re: Why must Dub-step take over the world?

                      Tue, February 19, 2008 - 11:20 AM
                      Thanks for the heavy reply,

                      I say all music at all tempos!

                      Me and my peoples are dancers, I for myself am not gifted in creating the music, but o to dance to it! Dub Step gives me a moment to slow down, come down a bit and catch my breath before the next break drops. The evolution of music is just that evolution, tomorrow there will be another sound that half the crowd is wondering why too, as long as it is good and I can FEEL the soul I will dance it.
  • Re: Why must Dub-step take over the world?

    Tue, February 19, 2008 - 11:47 AM
    1) Quote of the Year (so far): "God hates Dubstep" - Napalm, Lucent L'amour, 3am. I almost spilled my drink.

    2) First let me offer my take on Dubstep: I love it, I play it, I make a bit of, and I listen to a lot of it- at home, in the car, etc etc, but rarely if ever do I want to hear it on the main system at any event between the hours of, say, midnight and 4am......there are exceptions to this of course, and it usually involves a selector who understands the nuances of variety (um, Skream anyone?).........Lo, the first third of your set at Symbiosis last year was maybe the third or fourth time I've heard anyone take bits and pieces of the genre and straight up turn it inside out. Wow, imagine- doing something INTERESTING and DANCEABLE and EXCITING with dubstep......and for that, I say "nice one".

    3) It was dope hearin' you drop 'Skmo's Primus remix (even if you only played like 16 bars of it....) ;)
    • Re: Why must Dub-step take over the world?

      Tue, February 19, 2008 - 1:04 PM
      ok so at least can we agree on this:

      if:

      you are dancing, and all of a sudden something super sick comes on and your body begins moving in a wonderful way, and then you realize "Wait! i think someone might be able to call this dubstep!!!!!!!"

      then:

      you should not stop dancing just because you have decided you hate dubstep....let the music take you.


      that said, i think we all (mostly) agree that its WAY over done, usually poorly done, and poorly done too often.

      but it would be lame to not let yourself like it when it comes on.

      it by no means should be played on 3 different sound systems at once by all the DJs...thats horrid.


      and, in other news....wait till they figure it out and start playing it at 80 and 90....seriously, mark my words.

      L
      • Re: Why must Dub-step take over the world?

        Tue, February 19, 2008 - 1:06 PM
        ps...Mo just saw yer post

        well amigo THANKS for payin attention...i love when the heads really notice the little things like that. i gotta give cred to ableton.
        you cant do that kind of live mashing with vinyl, or any other medium that i know of.

        and god yes, Eskmo fully outdid himself.

        ive been workin on a claypool shotta, and when i heard that i was like "o god yes" and everything else became second priority
        :)

        much smooch
        • Re: Why must Dub-step take over the world?

          Tue, February 19, 2008 - 1:41 PM
          I've found that a straight dubstep set at primetime dance hours can really kill the vibe. It's not main floor, primetime stuff, at least in my opinion...

          I did, however, finally "get" dubstep when I heard Mala play at Symbiosis. It was some of the best music I heard there all weekend.
          • Re: Why must Dub-step take over the world?

            Tue, February 19, 2008 - 2:23 PM
            some my friends who love mostly house are not into dubstep,
            then i showed em a couple songs and .. oh that is good .
            They're definitley onto something with dubstep ...

            i like varience
            • Re: Why must Dub-step take over the world?

              Tue, February 19, 2008 - 3:54 PM
              I do like me some dubstep for momentary transitions. Driving in the car, it can be great for long trips. Being wonked by a fat bassy track when I'm doing housework can def get me motivated.

              Mosie, I was saving that for when I printed out the bumperstickers!! haha That was some funny chit fo sho. How's that cassette tape? We have one for you, Lo, and for Satsi as well. There's some awesome "techno" from '94 that you might seriously wanna think about incorporating into your mixage...

              And honestly, I don't actually know for sure if God hates dubstep, but I do know that God will fuck with a generator when he hears that it's being used to power the system that plays dubstep. (heh heh u no I love you bro ;o)
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                Tue, February 19, 2008 - 5:11 PM
                editor's note:

                i think what most of Ye are talking about as dubstep is not at ALL what i play or what i would play at a peak time.

                most of that "dubstep" is a very specific (and generic) slow, boring, dark, minimal style. (and oddly i think it works best in a low ceiling, small, dark, cozy room, where it is alll played all night, cuz it sets you into a zone).

                but that has NNNNNNNOTHING to do with what i play. I might play ill wobbling massive surging womp at 140 or 70. but its different from that "dubstep" trend yalls are bored of. i was bored of it before i heard it
                :)
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                  Tue, February 19, 2008 - 7:22 PM
                  I liked reading all of that
                  looking forward to bringing the phunky love 3-15 : )

                  ... i guess to chime in ...
                  dubstep is not my life. I dont have the time or patience to bring it to a level that other things are at in my life, I guess I'm not motivated enough to do so. I do love going to shows though and I havent seen a Bassnectar show that didnt fuck the roof off of the place yet!

                  Lorin, you do a great job with controlling people/the crowd (building the night), keeping things interesting and new through the set, doing things at the right time, and linking one feeling to the other, then breaking in with some ohhh shit. I like what I like and I have no fears/choice but to dance to what I like. I like what connects me to giving surrender to my shiney dance inside and what makes the two of us move. Thats the music I like, anything that fucking rocks. The crowd makes the show that much better and thats 1/2 the reasons why I like bassnectar shows. Music + Crowds interactions with the music = Sheer Scwheeetness

                  If its good its good, if you dont think so find your goodness.
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                    Re: Why must Dub-step take over the world?

                    Wed, February 20, 2008 - 1:08 AM
                    yeah i agree some dub step is boring and some is really good!! i love the bass boomers and dub step has alot of that but i do prefer the normal dub over the dub step!!
                    • Re: Why must Dub-step take over the world?

                      Wed, February 20, 2008 - 7:43 AM
                      So aside from all this chat about electronic genre's.... :P

                      I think the real question is where can I find those new cuts "Double Step" "Art of Revolution" and the remix of "Kingston Town" .

                      They're not up on www.bassnectar.net or on www.addictech.com...

                      What's the skinny?

                      are they for listening pleasure only at Bassnectar shows?
                      • Re: Why must Dub-step take over the world?

                        Wed, February 20, 2008 - 8:32 AM

                        Ha, thats what i was thinking....

                        Lo dropping teases in to the thread, like always. ;-)

                        If only at shows....when are you comming back to oregon ?
                        • Re: Why must Dub-step take over the world?

                          Wed, February 20, 2008 - 8:53 AM
                          Ore-gon ore-gon ORE-GON!
                          And I'll make pancakes.....
                          (maybe all of my posts will make inside jokes in reference to previous posts, hehe. But then the lack of variety would be stifling and negative and opressive, and people would get bored. Kinda like if Lorin only played the same thing at every single show...)
                          • Re: Why must Dub-step take over the world?

                            Wed, February 20, 2008 - 12:53 PM
                            "It was dope hearin' you drop 'Skmo's Primus remix (even if you only played like 16 bars of it....) ;)"

                            Your Reno set was so high energy... Thanks!!! I too grooved on the Primus... Also, where is the muffled, barely recognizable, Gorillaz " sunshine in a bag" track from? That was very fun.

                            You and Freq -back 2 back- in Reno- THANKS AGAIN!!!!!!!!
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                              Wed, February 20, 2008 - 2:35 PM
                              word!

                              pancakes sound great

                              that gorillaz rmx is something i did for Kyrian so he would have a dope track to play in Bali. thats ultra exclusive, brand new, just a fun one for sexy parties...its just a jam.

                              The AOR tune is the next single...but there is a hangup with clearing the vocal sample...so it'll be a few more weeks.
                              kingston remix is finished, just waiting for release, and same with the Double Step (trying to decide how much is too much with the polka sample)

                              next single after that is a slow 90 bpm monster called "Glitch Modulator" and it is....FUCKING ill.

                              :)
                              but man, i gottta say the timeline on these things is never fast enough

                              love
                              L
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                                Wed, February 20, 2008 - 2:36 PM
                                dunno if that was clear, but YES they will be released (bassnectar.net, iTunes, bleep, beatport, etc) just dont know when yet

                                smooch
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                                  Wed, February 20, 2008 - 4:18 PM
                                  For me personally, this thread is rather ironic. I'm an admitted "good" dubstep junkie (i.e. I LOVE it when it's good). I was actually turned on to it inadvertently by Lorin at one of the Sea of Dreams shows ('06-'07 me thinks). He dropped Skream's "Lightening" track on us and it was so fucking heavy!!! Does anyone remember that? It sounded like music Darth Vader would listen to. It totally annihilated both my mind as well as the dancefloor. It was an epic musical moment for me, personally.

                                  I had never really heard the genre before that, and started listening to a ton of it afterwards. I have to agree that when it's bad, it's really bad. Nor do I think a full show of Dubstep would make for a great dance party. When it's good, though, it's amazing music. I definitely agree that it's one area in electronic music that's evolving rapidly, full of new sounds and concepts. Case in point; please check out Eskmo's free mix "Worth and Value":

                                  www.eskmo.com/

                                  It's loaded with cutting edge dubstep sound. I dare you to tell me that this isn't good music!
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                                    Fri, February 22, 2008 - 10:35 PM
                                    It sounded like music Darth Vader would listen to

                                    LO FUCKING L
                                    thats rad!

                                    i love that track and yes im gonna say i have heard some boring shit, but i have also communed with the divine spirit and the universe while dancing to sets by djunya and mozaic at symbiosis in front of a stack of subwoofers.
                                    skream and loefah have also been responsible for melting me happily.
                                    dont forget ripple.

                                    like every genre there is good and bad. and of course, to each their own. what sucks to one rocks to another.

                                    my 2 cents.

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                                    Wed, February 27, 2008 - 7:04 PM
                                    Hey Pr3st0n, you were so right about that Eskmo mix. I can't stop listening to it. I esp love the first three tracks. Thanks for the heads up.
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                                      Wed, February 27, 2008 - 7:35 PM
                                      Yeah, isn't it awesome?! That first track is so bad ass! I think it's a great example of "Good" dubstep, and also a glimpse of where the genre can go/is going.

                                      The West Coast dubstep artists are really putting out some cutting edge, innovative, interesting and progressive sounds. Not just steady, droning basslines. If you like this, check out:

                                      Bay Area Dubstep (B.A.D. Vol. 1); Eskmo's got a couple of tracks on it, and all the tracks are good.

                                      Djunya: some really good mixes on Futurebreaks FM website like this one:

                                      www.futurebreaks.fm/music/FB...rlign.mp3

                                      I know I've heard Lorin drop a Djunya track or two...

                                      JuJu
                                      Matty G
                                      Ooah's dubstep songs and mixes are ridiculous: www.glitchmob.net/DubstepMix/

                                      Check out that Ooah mix, it's totally free, and totally sick. A great combo, no?