Oh, I can't get enough glitch. But dubstep leaves me bored.

hi!
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im glad you brought this up

first off, i hate current dubstep. its monotonous, dreary, boring, dead, bad vibe wankoff.

og dubstep was the 2 step stuff that ammunition and tempa and horsepower was pumping out years ago that had snare on the 2 and the 4 of every beat, and a super thick dripping vibe...one of those cuts is on freakbeats for beatfreaks.

when i first heard "the new" dubstep, i was like THATS NOT DUBSTEP! THATS DOOM METAL!!!! and it is...exact same tempo, exact same beat, same emphasis on slow, heavy, grinding crusher vibe

but even my deep affection for doom did not make me excited about dubstep, cuz i coudlnt stand the damn reverb overload, the uneventful meandering, the ridiculously obligatory SPOOKY vibe, the lack of musical originality, etc etc etc.

then i began finding ONE or TWO tracks that i was like... Well ill be a stuck pig in the back of a 67 dodge, this is fuckin GOOD.

and even so, i just used loops of it, and mashed it up with the buildups from played out breaks remixes (ala my Bongo Bong mashup... www.bassnectar.net/podcast)

and then i was working on a polka remix ( december 2006) and was like "well hellooooooooooooooo" to discover that the double time absurdity of bouncy polka can be applied to dubstep....140 bpm, not 70....and holy shit...all those ridiculous psy trance records i have that i can never play again with all the INCREDIBLE SICK sounds and samples and breakdowns...all that will fit right in too!!! WOW! and i started going apeshit.
making it, collecting it, hating 95% of it.


now it is a genre just like any that i am bored to tears by (electro house, glitch hop, etc) but would be a FOOOL to disregard completely because like anything, there are DIAMONDS in them there ruffs.

also how nice it is after the burnout on nubreaks to have a GENRE FOR SALE AGAIN!!!!!
any non DJ will not appreciate this, but there was a period from about 2003-2007 that i could NOT BUY RECORDS anymore because they all sucked furiously. now i can actually go online and spend 5 hours and find 3 or 4 seirously SICK tunes...and THAT IS FUN for a DJ!!!!
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on to more exciting points:

taking the hard shuffle of 2step (which totally won me over in 2000, 2001...during the time of Float, Grampa Whams, Opalescent Egg, Rythm is, and the first real Bassnectar dancefloor tracks that WORKED at 130+ bpm) and hi passing the loop, putting the snare ONLY on the 3 (the MAIN snare) and either a breakbeat kick pattern or EVEN A 4-4 kick pattern, as long as the accent is on the 3,

FOLKS>>>>>> IT PRODUCES ONE OF THE MOST FUNNEST EVER DANCES KNOWN TO HUMANKIND.... an almost sideways undulation of insane bouncing, and spring-board hopping, an exultory jiggle, THE BEST HANDSWAT EVER, and a pulse that pounds with abandon and DOUBLE TIME ENERGY

so yes, 99.9% of dubstep at 70....slyt my wrists.

50% of dubstep at 140....HELL YES!!!! it BUMPUMPS!!!

i dont know if there are any copies of that Bassnectar track Art Of Revolution floating around...(i hope not, it will be out in octoboer or so) but that is what i mean....and that doesnt even have the shuffle. add that hard shuffle, and yu have some Rusko shit.

and anyone who can hear Cockney Thug (minus the lamer than lame vocal samples which i instantly removed) and not happily bounce around.... i dont know what to tell you.


next time you hear GOOD dubstep....try bouncing double time. stick your hand up high...straight arm and let it kind of lead you like a sail.
count:
"one. two. THREE!!!! four. one. two. THREE!!! four."
and if you really cannot feel it, then suspend judgement until the next time we cross paths, i will show you what i mean.
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lastly, and least important, but i wanted to address: sonic bloom.
i was SO HAPPILY AND INTENTIONALLY mixing heavy amounts of dubstep.
because for once in my life i wanted to do yet another style of mixing, opposite from what i usually do these days (which is constantly bounce genres and grind he tempos like a roller coaster) back how i used to mix when i spun psy trance....

i wanted to mix a consistent FLOW of music.
so i rocked 140 for like 45 minutes, then shifted down to 70 for one song, up to 85 and rocked it at 85 for another half hour

and i LOVED DOING IT

i had a special intention that night to do something different, and to leave dancers to their OWN devices, to fend for themselves, and get EXPERIEMENTAL with dancing,....hoping people would figure out how to create DOUBLE TIME DANCE MOVES even if their ears tricked them and told them it was slow.... watch me if you are confused. was i dancing slow? no, i danced so hard that night i pulled a muscle in my back that is hurting to this day and which is causing me to need to stop typing right now

suffice it to say, if i did sonic bloom all over again i would do it EXACTLY like that. i play hundreds of sets a year (THAT IS AN EXAGGERATION, but it fucking feels like it :) and most of them are totally different themed, or have their own motif, or a special central point they orbit around, or a certain track that leads everything else, or is purposfully self-referencing, and much more complex than it might appear on the surface (which is one of the goals...to have the intentions be subliminal, behind the curtain) ...at this point if you have been with me for a while musically, you should just trust me. and enjoy it cuz next time around it very well may be totally different. and if yu expect it to be different, maybe it will be exactly the same, and then you will be nice and practiced. NO RULES. NO LIMITS>
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suffice it to say

dubstep is here to stay. like most genres most of it is un-noteworthy, super overly masculine, uninventive, and locked into a series of ultra disapointing rules and needless limits. but SOME of it is GOOOD, and there are also good lessons that can be taken from it, and applied to other genres, so be thankful for this next step in music. as for me it is definitely by no means the most current "step" ....but that will have to be something you experience live
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lol... i think if djs went by those guidelines for a set we'd be listening to bob marley micheal jackson prince and james nrown and i'd get bored and leave....

And BOOM! We're transported back in time to when those rich white men who didn't wanna pay taxes wrote that document called the federalist papers to convince the states to form a union. One of the most revolutionary ideas therein was the concept of letting factions duke it out as opposed to trying to replace variety with nationalistic monotony. Even way back then they figured that people like so many different things, and in so many different ways that it's impossible to get them to agree on anything. Thus bigger factions rule while the smaller ones are allowed to keep doing what minority-type things they do, because the smaller groups are being catered to by the bigger groups because the bigger groups need the smaller ones to become a majority. Thus nobody can do completely as they wish, but nobody gets exterminated either.
CONfused YeT? If not, apply that idea to the debate we're having to come to the conclusion that
*drumroll*
There's so much variety in people that even Lorin (much less a government) can't please everyone, every time. And if you're in the minority you should still tune in, because (I'm sure) bassnectar loves you anyway.
(And I bet Cheney loves you too, deep fried n' covered in BBQ sauce....)

I agree with your many of your comments. Brett from Tibet

For myself there is nothing that bums me out more than a rocking freaked out dance
floor turned down to the droll rumble mumble of dubstep. Sure Djs got to give the peeps
a break between the big parts of the set. But from observation the quickest way to
get people to fold arms, stick them in their pockets or stop dancing is dubstep.
10 minutes of Dubstep can feel like a funeral precession rolling thu a dance floor.

I do like the deep sound of the bass and the wobble. but the slowed down beat makes
me feel like the fun is over. or I was supposed to get drug myself into a stupor to appreciate
the drudging monotony.

Dubstep is doing to D&B, Grime what screwed and chopped did to hip hop.
It aint taking over.

but like all forms of music it will evolve and change (as it should)
the DJs will steal the best parts and tweak them into the next fad
the purists will wince, the newbies will cheer
and the music will go on

Dubstep takeover? not likely.

But what I am really scared of is that we are going to heard a lot
bandwagon DJ crap before the hype dies down.

I think this post has made a deal with the devil for abnormally long life.

Santa Cruz also loves Dubstep, anywhere that reggae lives is going to love it.
If they get to hear the good stuff !

YEAH!

I cant help but like dubstep since I love drum n bass. The thing for the DJ that makes Dubstep so inviting is the fact that unlike drum n bass, you can mix it into just about anything. If you plan on rocking out some drum n bass then you are stuck at the 170 range all night. Though changing up styles of drum n bass is doable, youre not going to get away too much with throwing in some 140 breaks in there. Ive heard people try it, Ive heard people slow it down to throw in Hip Hop, never liked one single bit of it. So if you are cross style like Lorin is then it gives you the ability to add more variety to your set. To add that drum n bass sound in there to open it up and grasp the other side of the playground is a blessing.


As far as it being hot right now, well so was drum n bass when it hit, so was everything else when it hit. Thats the nature of the beast.

I just wan't the wobble, the basss to lift me off the ground... and slam me back down... like his the 05-07 shit!

in SF, probably 1/3 was dubstep.... he was playing jams for sure - nero, doorly, number9ine, widdler, eskmo, and others...

he attracts a much different crowd than attends regular dubstep shows, and i think his style reflects that...